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	<description>Fearless Pursuit of Creativity</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce DeBoer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce DeBoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha - I have the reverse experience too, I just didn&#039;t write about it:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha &#8211; I have the reverse experience too, I just didn&#8217;t write about it:)</p>
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		<title>By: John R</title>
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		<dc:creator>John R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re totally right. Time has a huge impact on creativity. In fact, I&#039;m procrastinating right now... Must-get-back-to-work.

PS. Normally I have the reverse experience with cameras. I see something inspiring and all I have is my iPhone, which completely fails to capture the magic of the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re totally right. Time has a huge impact on creativity. In fact, I&#8217;m procrastinating right now&#8230; Must-get-back-to-work.</p>
<p>PS. Normally I have the reverse experience with cameras. I see something inspiring and all I have is my iPhone, which completely fails to capture the magic of the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that what is experienced as a moment or &quot;flash&quot; of inspiration and creativity is really the fruit of everything that came before it. But I disagree with your assessment of the photos! When I viewed them enlarged, I was struck immediately by the b&amp;w, which to my eye is far superior, both technically and emotionally. (And I looked at the pictures and had that reaction before reading what you took them with, and that you consider the results equal.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that what is experienced as a moment or &#8220;flash&#8221; of inspiration and creativity is really the fruit of everything that came before it. But I disagree with your assessment of the photos! When I viewed them enlarged, I was struck immediately by the b&amp;w, which to my eye is far superior, both technically and emotionally. (And I looked at the pictures and had that reaction before reading what you took them with, and that you consider the results equal.)</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Nix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Nix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Bruce! 

I&#039;ll add that my clients would not want to pay my hourly &quot;shower, driving, sleep walking, yoga, or cycling&quot; rate! Time is the only &quot;tangible&quot; thing that many clients can grasp when it comes to creative services. With as much experience as we have, we work faster, we see in a different way. That&#039;s the difference -- and it&#039;s simply not captured in time, but in true market value for the work, period. Has anyone ever asked Frank Gehry how many hours he spent designing a building?

PS. For the record, I&#039;ve never had someone ask me how much time it took me to complete a painting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Bruce! </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll add that my clients would not want to pay my hourly &#8220;shower, driving, sleep walking, yoga, or cycling&#8221; rate! Time is the only &#8220;tangible&#8221; thing that many clients can grasp when it comes to creative services. With as much experience as we have, we work faster, we see in a different way. That&#8217;s the difference &#8212; and it&#8217;s simply not captured in time, but in true market value for the work, period. Has anyone ever asked Frank Gehry how many hours he spent designing a building?</p>
<p>PS. For the record, I&#8217;ve never had someone ask me how much time it took me to complete a painting.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce DeBoer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce DeBoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 18:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Adriana - I think the billable rate for the seconds should be billed in years - but then I haven&#039;t had that much luck billing for the years it took me to create in those seconds of which you speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Adriana &#8211; I think the billable rate for the seconds should be billed in years &#8211; but then I haven&#8217;t had that much luck billing for the years it took me to create in those seconds of which you speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Adriana DiFranco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adriana DiFranco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 17:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  This also brings to mind the Malcolm Gladwell concept of &quot;the prepared mind&quot; which he explores in Outliers.  It may often happen that I solve a creative problem in the shower or while I sleep at night or while I&#039;m doing something super mundane. But I couldn&#039;t have had that Eureka moment without putting the time in to read about the problem, get research, strategize, discuss, brainstorm, look at competitors, and also daydream, visit a museum, listen to music etcetera.  

Sometimes, the actual concept does come in 3 seconds.  But I don&#039;t have a billable rate for seconds.  ;)

This is why progressive ad agencies and creative shops truly do believe in sending creatives off to museums or surfing or what have you. You have to work at a problem directly as well as indirectly to get at an original vision and solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  This also brings to mind the Malcolm Gladwell concept of &#8220;the prepared mind&#8221; which he explores in Outliers.  It may often happen that I solve a creative problem in the shower or while I sleep at night or while I&#8217;m doing something super mundane. But I couldn&#8217;t have had that Eureka moment without putting the time in to read about the problem, get research, strategize, discuss, brainstorm, look at competitors, and also daydream, visit a museum, listen to music etcetera.  </p>
<p>Sometimes, the actual concept does come in 3 seconds.  But I don&#8217;t have a billable rate for seconds.  <img src='http://www.permissiontosuck.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This is why progressive ad agencies and creative shops truly do believe in sending creatives off to museums or surfing or what have you. You have to work at a problem directly as well as indirectly to get at an original vision and solution.</p>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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